@pratik Oh and I forgot your question in my rambling: I agree! But yeah, as I said in the long post I think it's most important to prioritise the recruitment efforts and then move on. Often feels like progressives are too interested in getting stuck in theoretical arguments, whilst the conservatives adopt something akin to a ruthless attitude; which in turn feels pragmatic in comparison, even if there is no compromise involved at all.

(oh and in my quiet moments I have unkind notions about voting rights so uh... oh wait you're joking 😇)